Guidelines for creating a standard

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Re: Guidelines for creating a standard

Postby steven harris » 25 Jul 2012, 12:59

Your first (best) option, as has been suggested, is to just leave your motto in English. There is no rule that says that a motto has to be in Latin. Your arms/standard will look no worse, or be any less heraldic, if your motto is in English rather than in Latin. “Family is our Strength” is fine as-is. I’ve studied Latin for 20 years, and my motto is in English.


As rusty as Chris purports his Latin to be – he’s rather dead on.

vis/vis means force or power, and is often translated as violence – I would not have used it in this context.

ens/entis is a noun (and a rather obscure one at that!), not a verb, referring to the state of being. I think your “Latin colleague” was making this a bit harder than it had to be.


If you’re insistent upon Latin, then I’d go with Arthur’s suggestion of “Familia Fortitudo Nostra” – which is perfectly correct. There are other words that you could use for strength, but fortitudo is quite common.
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Re: Guidelines for creating a standard

Postby Chas Charles-Dunne » 25 Jul 2012, 13:03

quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videtur
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Re: Guidelines for creating a standard

Postby steven harris » 25 Jul 2012, 13:09

Chas Charles-Dunne wrote:quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videtur


:lol: yeah, that's the problem...
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Re: Guidelines for creating a standard

Postby Nicholas Hutchinson » 25 Jul 2012, 16:57

Not a problem. I was using the same motto that my father had chosen for his arms. He had used the Latin, but I think I may use the English for simplicity sake.

Iteration forthcoming!
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Re: Guidelines for creating a standard

Postby Nicholas Hutchinson » 25 Jul 2012, 18:32

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Here are three different options with the English text for the motto.

Thoughts?

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Re: Guidelines for creating a standard

Postby Chris Green » 25 Jul 2012, 18:37

I would rank them 1 2 3. What is the font of the top one?

Have you tried the standard with two crests and one badge? The extra red might help.
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Re: Guidelines for creating a standard

Postby Nicholas Hutchinson » 25 Jul 2012, 18:53

The font for the top one is called Anorion.

Chris Green wrote:Have you tried the standard with two crests and one badge? The extra red might help.


What do you mean "might help"? What do you see as an issue?
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Re: Guidelines for creating a standard

Postby Chris Green » 25 Jul 2012, 19:16

Nicholas Hutchinson wrote:What do you mean "might help"? What do you see as an issue?


No issue. Just a thought that the additional red might be more eye-catching.
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Re: Guidelines for creating a standard

Postby Nicholas Hutchinson » 25 Jul 2012, 22:29

Ok, how would I end up blazoning the standard then? I assume from the pole to the fly?
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Re: Guidelines for creating a standard

Postby Jeremy Kudlick » 25 Jul 2012, 23:02

Nicholas Hutchinson wrote:Ok, how would I end up blazoning the standard then? I assume from the pole to the fly?

Blazoning of flags usually falls under vexillological standards, but flags are generally blazoned the same way as arms. Standards are usually blazoned from hoist to fly.
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