DARs Completed in 2017
- Terry Baldwin
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Re: DARs Completed in 2017
Mr. Robert McAtee a resident of San Antonio, Texas, USA
Blazon: Sanguine on a Fess Or a Closet compony Argent and Sable in chief four Fusils in fess Or.
Crest: From a Torse Or and Sanguine on a Grassy Mound Vert in front of six Arrows interlaced in saltire points upwards a coiled Rattlesnake about to strike all proper.
Mantling: Sanguine doubled Or
Motto: Incepto Ne Desistam (May I not shrink from my purpose.
Herald: Geoff Kingman-Sugars
Artist: Lee Lumbley
Date: Arms assumed 1 October 2017
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Terry Baldwin
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- Michael F. McCartney
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Re: DARs Completed in 2017
Striking design! Curious as to the intended symbolism...
Michael F. McCartney
Fremont, California
Fremont, California
- Terry Baldwin
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Re: DARs Completed in 2017
Client had an encounter (non injury) with the snake, actually had a photo of the snake in that position. The shield was of the client's design, reasoning for composition not given.
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- JMcMillan
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Re: DARs Completed in 2017
I like the McAtee arms very much, both shield and crest. I'd only make two suggestions.
First, predictably from me, I don't see the need for the field to be blazoned as "sanguine" rather than "gules," particularly since the shade used in the emblazonment would almost certainly be identified by most heraldists as gules if we didn't have the blazon in front of us. Philosophically, I think the "stains" should be used very, very sparingly, especially this one, as its use undermines the principle that any shade of a heraldic tincture is the same tincture--i.e., pastel green, medium green, forest green, hunter green, etc., are all "vert," the selection of intensity being a matter of artistic taste. That's just venting, I guess, since I'm sure I'll persuade no one.
Second, I would have suggested having the snake coil around the arrows rather than being placed in front of them. It would (I think) make for a more realistic 3D crest and would more readily permit the helm to be displayed in profile as well as affronty without compromising the clarity of the design.
But those are both just carping; it really is an excellent piece of work.
First, predictably from me, I don't see the need for the field to be blazoned as "sanguine" rather than "gules," particularly since the shade used in the emblazonment would almost certainly be identified by most heraldists as gules if we didn't have the blazon in front of us. Philosophically, I think the "stains" should be used very, very sparingly, especially this one, as its use undermines the principle that any shade of a heraldic tincture is the same tincture--i.e., pastel green, medium green, forest green, hunter green, etc., are all "vert," the selection of intensity being a matter of artistic taste. That's just venting, I guess, since I'm sure I'll persuade no one.
Second, I would have suggested having the snake coil around the arrows rather than being placed in front of them. It would (I think) make for a more realistic 3D crest and would more readily permit the helm to be displayed in profile as well as affronty without compromising the clarity of the design.
But those are both just carping; it really is an excellent piece of work.
Joseph McMillan
Alexandra, Virginia, USA
Alexandra, Virginia, USA
- Chris Green
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Re: DARs Completed in 2017
I don't see the need for the field to be blazoned as "sanguine" rather than "gules," particularly since the shade used in the emblazonment would almost certainly be identified by most heraldists as gules if we didn't have the blazon in front of us. Philosophically, I think the "stains" should be used very, very sparingly, especially this one, as its use undermines the principle that any shade of a heraldic tincture is the same tincture--i.e., pastel green, medium green, forest green, hunter green, etc., are all "vert," the selection of intensity being a matter of artistic taste. That's just venting, I guess, since I'm sure I'll persuade no one.
You don't have to persuade me!
Chris Green
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