mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

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Re: mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

Postby Paul A. Schutler » 18 Jul 2018, 18:38

more images of the arms on each (there are a pair) candlestick, to assist
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Re: mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

Postby Ton de Witte » 23 Jul 2018, 11:05

I have been looking at the picture for a while now and I think that it is not a chevron but that the shield is chapé. In base there seems to be a depiction of water or ground and above that there seems to be some towers with possibly on top a crown but that also could just be the top of a tower.
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Torsten Laneryd
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Re: mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

Postby Torsten Laneryd » 23 Jul 2018, 19:07

Thanks Kurt, you got this answer from the German forum!Imageaf Ehrenborg, Swedish Adelskalender

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Re: mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

Postby Kurt Alex » 23 Jul 2018, 19:34

Hello Torsten,

Your were faster. I just saw the response from Gerd H.z.B. in the HIN forum. Thanks for posting the image.

Here is the link to the Ehrenborg entry he posted.

https://archive.org/stream/sverigesridd ... #page/n523

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Re: mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

Postby Chris Green » 23 Jul 2018, 20:09

The next question is whether the Ehrenborg family has any connection to the Chamber Music Society "af 1887" or whether this is a (Danish) red herring.
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Re: mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

Postby Paul A. Schutler » 24 Jul 2018, 14:00

woo hoo thanks guys this is fantastic. I still think H & B celebrate something in 1887

does the different shield shape indicate a different branch of the family? (forgive my ignorance) or is it simply an earlier version of the same family arms?

does the 'H' at the end change the name totally.

thanks so much, I genuinely could not have worked this out on my own, Bravo

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Re: mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

Postby Kurt Alex » 24 Jul 2018, 14:54

Hi Paul,
Re name spelling, I can tell you that fixed and fairly standardized spelling of names in Germany (and probably most of the Nordic countries - my guess) did not occur until rather well into the 19th century, to don't worry about the 'h' at the end.

Re shield shape, in Germanic heraldry there has been a progression over time from the heater shield to the now-favored half-round shield. Lots to read on Wikipedia in this regard. Take a look there. Also come join us at the Heraldik im Netz forum (http://www.heraldik-wappen.de) where you can also post your questions on Nordic/Germanic heraldry in English. We are a multi-lingual group and share some members with the IAAH forum.

Regards from South Carolina

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Re: mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

Postby Torsten Laneryd » 24 Jul 2018, 16:50

Paul A. Schutler wrote:
does the 'H' at the end change the name totally.


One family line was made barons (friherrar) but is now dead. Perhaps they preferred to differ the spelling from the others.

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Re: mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

Postby Kurt Alex » 25 Jul 2018, 01:49

Hello Torsten,

As in Lanerydh ?

Kurt :roll:

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Re: mystery (to me at least) Danish coat or arms

Postby Kurt Alex » 25 Jul 2018, 01:51

You should see some of the old spellings in German.


....ckgh, etc.

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