Coat of Arms in the Westerkerk

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Coat of Arms in the Westerkerk

Postby Ryan Shuflin » 23 Aug 2012, 20:29

Here are some pictures I took in the Westerkerk.
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This is just a good example of canting arms
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Too bad there was someone in the chair, so I could not get a better look at the interesting crest
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Arms on a round shield?
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Re: Coat of Arms in the Westerkerk

Postby Arthur Radburn » 23 Aug 2012, 21:25

Very nice, Ryan.

The arms in the second pic are those of the Scottish family Hope. One branch of the family holds the marquessate of Linlithgow; their arms are differenced by adding a laurel leaf at the centre of the chevron. The crest is a good (bad?) example of one which would be very difficult to wear on a real helmet.

To judge from 18th-century Dutch armorial seals and hatchments in South Africa, round shields were not unknown. Nor were oval shields, and lozenges, which were sometimes used by men as well as women.
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Re: Coat of Arms in the Westerkerk

Postby Chris Green » 24 Aug 2012, 05:15

I surmise that the Westerkerk in question is the one in Rotterdam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westerkerk

Is it certain that the circular CoA is actually a genuine CoA? I could imagine the family of a rich but non-armigerous person embellishing his tomb or memorial with something that looked as if it might be a CoA to the less knowledgeable. I note that the example has no crest, mantling or motto, which suggests to me that it was not a genuine CoA. But I could be wrong!
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Re: Coat of Arms in the Westerkerk

Postby Ton de Witte » 24 Aug 2012, 09:07

If you were rich enough to afford such a stone and a place in the interior of the church then the family almost certainly had arms because they probably would have been members of the local goverment and as such needed a seal which had a coa. The round form is imo just decorative and the roundels are not a part of the arms.
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Re: Coat of Arms in the Westerkerk

Postby Ryan Shuflin » 24 Aug 2012, 12:54

Oops, nope it is the one in Amsterdam

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Re: Coat of Arms in the Westerkerk

Postby Chris Green » 24 Aug 2012, 13:25

Silly me. Rotterdam's Westerkerk was destroyed by bombing in 1940.
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