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1672 Swiss Coat of Arms

Posted: 06 Nov 2013, 22:29
by Maurice Meslans
I think this is from the German part of Switzerland, it is on a beaker from Zurich.

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I found a possible for the right hand arms:
http://www.nw.ch/de/portrait/portraitwa ... nfo_id=287

I have had no luck finding the left hand arms

Maurice Meslans

Re: 1672 Swiss Coat of Arms

Posted: 07 Nov 2013, 02:10
by Daniel Gill
I think it's pretty clear that the one on the right are those of Barmettler, as you point out.

Re: 1672 Swiss Coat of Arms

Posted: 08 Nov 2013, 18:57
by Maurice Meslans
I think I found a candidate for the male's side of the arms:
http://www.chgh.net/heraldik/s/sp/spiessc.htm

There are several branches of this family, most were not far from Zurich. I also found one branch which named a lot of people around 1672 Hans Konrad (Conrad) Spiess. I could find no direct link with the Barmettler family, but there are still some of the Spiess family in Zurich. I realize the arms shown aren't exactly the same as the ones on the cup, but I also saw one almost the same some time ago. If I remember correctly it was an anglophone posting by someone who identified the arms as that of the lance or lanse family. Since the S didn't match L, I didn't make a note. Now of course I see that Lance is just a translation some anglophone made from the German Spiess. Unfortunately I can't find the posting and don't know how I found it.
Maurice Meslans