Arms for a HOA

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Chris Green
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Re: Arms for a HOA

Postby Chris Green » 28 Apr 2020, 16:45

Good try. But that's not an orle. This is an orle:

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Re: Arms for a HOA

Postby Cameron Campbell » 28 Apr 2020, 23:06

My mistake. I wanted a thinner border than the one you usually see used in Scottish cadency. I took the orle and just elongated it to be the border of the shield.

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Re: Arms for a HOA

Postby Michael F. McCartney » 29 Apr 2020, 09:29

It's a fillet bordure (filiere in French blazonry)
My spelling of these terms may be off.. :)
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Re: Arms for a HOA

Postby Chris Green » 29 Apr 2020, 11:25

Michael F. McCartney wrote:It's a fillet bordure (filiere in French blazonry)


Fillet bordure is probably the best answer, though a quick look at reference books suggests that "fillet" is used with some ordinaries and the cross, but no mention is made of the bordure. Oddly Rolland's "Illustrations to the Armorial Général" which gives examples of all sorts of ordinaries, subordinaries and charges, many of them most obscure, does not include a fillet bordure/filière.
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Re: Arms for a HOA

Postby Jeremy Fox » 29 Apr 2020, 20:35

Stalins' Vocabulaire-Atlas Heraldique gives filière for the French term, with no discrete English equivalent.

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Re: Arms for a HOA

Postby Hector Rojas » 04 May 2020, 21:29

Or perhaps the mantling could be per pale thusly:
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Re: Arms for a HOA

Postby Michael F. McCartney » 06 May 2020, 04:20

Very nice!
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Re: Arms for a HOA

Postby Iain Boyd » 08 May 2020, 00:37

What a great emblazonment, Hector. Thank you for preparing the painting.

It is what I, personally, had in mind after the original 'logo' was posted.

I know it is traditional to start the torse with the metal from the mantling.

However, may I suggest painting the torse 'blue, white, blue, green, white, green' to include more blue and to 'balance' the torse with the 'per pale' mantling?

All the best,

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Re: Arms for a HOA

Postby Michael F. McCartney » 08 May 2020, 20:58

Ian has a good idea re: having a three-color wreath. .

Other more traditional variants along that line might be white-green-blue repeated.

Or white-blue-green repeated.

And you could experiment with the parted mantling - maybe switching the blue & green

Just possible experiments
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Re: Arms for a HOA

Postby Hector Rojas » 05 Jun 2020, 15:39

Iain and Michael,
here are some updated versions, one with each possible torse option (two sets of tincture-metal-tincture and a traditional metal-tincture-tincture).

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