A bit of Nonsense from Tintagel

[steven harris]

Thank you for posting this, it is very interesting!

What is this charge(s)

I do not know what that charge is, but I did a research paper on Sir Lucan in undergrad for an Arthurian Legend class. I will say that in modern terms he is more akin to a chamberlain (being in charge of managing the royal household and organizing court functions) rather than a butler (simply in charge of a serving staff).

In the vast majority of the Arthurian armorials that I came across, Sir Lucan is attributed a red lynx, usually on a gold shield – not unlike the arms here attributed to Sir Owen. That’s one of the many reasons that I chose the crest that I did.
http://www.americanheraldry.org/pages/i ... al.HarrisS

[JMcMillan]

A butler was originally (and etymologically) in charge of the wine--Old French boteillier from boteille, a container for liquids, or bottle.

So I figured the charges were two bottle-openers combatant in fess between as many bottle caps in pale all argent, taking into account that in Cornwall the fellows were more likely to be drinking beer than wine.

[Andy Jamieson]

Or Mead Joe ! I enjoyed seeing these again. My Uncle many years ago gave me a set when I was about 10 years old and they helped spark my love of heraldry along with the movie, 'The Black shield of Falworth' so more nonsense there too, I am afraid !

[Jeremy Kudlick]

I'm not sure heraldry could become more nonsensical than Monty Python and the Holy Grail, especially the arms of Sir Robin, the Not-Quite-So-Brave-As-Sir-Lancelot.

[Chris Green]

Gerald Brault's book Early blazon - Heraldic Terminology in the 12th and 13th Centuries with special reference to Arthurian Heraldry will be of interest to those fascinated by King Arthur and the Round Table.

http://www.google.se/books?hl=en&lr=&id=OzGF29hFLmMC&oi=fnd&pg=PR1&dq=heraldry&ots=DOo-pwgFmF&sig=4pJ5XRrl34NL-MHRSLeebzYJkPw&redir_esc=y

[Ryan Shuflin]

Here is another Arthurian roll. I find the bottom right one (Hector de Maris?) interesting. What would you call the charge?


Larger Picture
http://medievalromance.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/public_scripts/resizer.php?file=../domains/shelleysghost.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/local/media/images/romance/19-2-MS-EMus-78-fol-4r.jpg&preset=gallery-slider-full

[Chris Green]

Is it perhaps meant to be an octopus? "de Maris" presumably means "of the sea".

[Chas Charles-Dunne]

Could be a badly drawn Estoile.