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Re: Some Russian Noble Arms

Posted: 04 Oct 2015, 23:17
by Michael F. McCartney
Are their arms on record for Utgoff?

Re: Some Russian Noble Arms

Posted: 05 Oct 2015, 18:23
by Marcus Karlsson
Sorry I have found no Arms for Utgoff.

Re: Some Russian Noble Arms

Posted: 06 Oct 2015, 02:50
by Michael F. McCartney
I suspected as much. I knew a fellow in college who had an armorial bookplate in one of his books ...

Re: Some Russian Noble Arms

Posted: 06 Oct 2015, 11:11
by Edward Hillenbrand
Is there a background story for the arms of Noble Lineage Izmalkow? It appears as if they are claiming the killing of a Prince or King. What about post Soviet arms? I am interested to see how Russian heraldry has changed in the nearly 100 years since the last Tzar.

Re: Some Russian Noble Arms

Posted: 06 Oct 2015, 12:01
by Chris Green
Edward Hillenbrand wrote:Is there a background story for the arms of Noble Lineage Izmalkow? It appears as if they are claiming the killing of a Prince or King. What about post Soviet arms? I am interested to see how Russian heraldry has changed in the nearly 100 years since the last Tzar.


You are perhaps thinking of a similarity with the Dukes of Norfolk who have the so-called "Flodden Augmentation". The Earl of Surrey (later Duke of Norfolk) did not of course kill the Scottish King James IV personally.

http://armorial-register.com/forum-new/viewtopic.php?t=290

The Izmalkov motto "Pro Patria Moriamur" translates I think as Let Us Die For The Fatherland", which suggests to me that the lion rampant impaled with a dart is meant to represent the original Izmalkov who was killed in battle. The oak sprig in the left paw might then represent the hero's family, destined to grow great like the oak tree. I cannot think of any foreign kings killed in battle with the Russians, certainly none in post-medieval times. There is/was to my knowledge no non-Russian royal family with a CoA Sable a Lion Rampant brandishing in its dexter paw a Sword Or and in its sinister paw an Oak Sprig Proper.

Re: Some Russian Noble Arms

Posted: 06 Oct 2015, 21:04
by Edward Hillenbrand
Right you are Chris, but alas, there is no such story here. Oh well, if he were like some of my family members he wouldn't let the truth get in the way of a good story! :lol:

Re: Some Russian Noble Arms

Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 16:17
by Marcus Karlsson
Coat of arms of the Golenistchev-Kutuzov-Tolstoy Family:

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Noble linage Kaftyrev XII:
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Noble linage Kaniowski:
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Re: Some Russian Noble Arms

Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 16:20
by Marcus Karlsson
Noble linage Kazembek XIV:
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Noble linage Kern XVIII:
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Counts Kleinmichel:
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Re: Some Russian Noble Arms

Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 16:25
by Marcus Karlsson
Noble linage Kotlarewski XII, the Kettle is canting:
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Noble linage Koshin XVIII:
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Noble linage Creighton XIV:
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Re: Some Russian Noble Arms

Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 16:31
by Marcus Karlsson
Noble linage Strizhevski XV:
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Noble linage Subotich XIV:
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