Fun with Canting Arms and Mottos.

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Re: Fun with Canting Arms and Mottos.

Postby Bernard Juby » 21 Apr 2022, 10:17

[quote="Ryan Shufli It can also be that canting charges tend to fit better as crests.[/quote]

Many charges lend themselves to canting. The Styles, Shakespeare, Coote, Legge, etc., etc.

Here are the bookplates of Coote & Legge
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Re: Fun with Canting Arms and Mottos.

Postby Bernard Juby » 21 Apr 2022, 11:19

The bookplate of Henry Corbett
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Postby Bernard Juby » 21 Apr 2022, 11:25

The bookplate of W H Mullens
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Re: Fun with Canting Arms and Mottos.

Postby Chris Green » 21 Apr 2022, 11:51

Looking at the emblazonments of Mullens and Corbett, I am not so much struck by the cants, which are quite straightforward, as by the inability of the artists to understand basic principles of heraldic artistry. Both torse and the crest should be firmly anchored to the helm. Here they are instead precariously balanced. Not only that, they are not nearly to scale, though rather than reducing the crests and torses to match the helms, both emblazonments could easily have encompassed helms of twice the size without in any way unbalancing the composition. Alas and alack, the bulk of heraldic artistry of the period laboured with the same errors.
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Re: Fun with Canting Arms and Mottos.

Postby Jeremy Fox » 21 Apr 2022, 13:22

Badger (brock) crest of Brooke
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Re: Fun with Canting Arms and Mottos.

Postby Jeremy Fox » 21 Apr 2022, 13:29

Also the badger (aka "grey") crest of Grey
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Re: Fun with Canting Arms and Mottos.

Postby Jeremy Fox » 21 Apr 2022, 13:45

Crest & arms of Sheepshanks.
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And, slightly less obvious, crest of Warren.
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Re: Fun with Canting Arms and Mottos.

Postby Bernard Juby » 21 Apr 2022, 17:06

The badger is also a brock and features in the Arms of Brocklebank
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Re: Fun with Canting Arms and Mottos.

Postby Bernard Juby » 21 Apr 2022, 17:50

Alas and alack, the bulk of heraldic artistry of the period laboured with the same errors.

All too true! It seemed the fashion of the day to assume that all of the armigers had had their heads shrunk.

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Re: Fun with Canting Arms and Mottos.

Postby Iain Boyd » 21 Apr 2022, 23:30

Further to my comment that the College of Arms tends to restrict cants to the crest -

It has just occurred to me that one of the reasons may be that as the crest was often used as a badge then an unofficial badge could become a canting element to the arms.

I must admit that I can not think of any canting badges at the moment but I am sure that there were many such badges created during the middle ages!

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