Cambridges get new conjugal coat of arms
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Re: Cambridges get new conjugal coat of arms
Is Katherine the heraldic heiress? I haven't heard any mention of brothers, and I think she is older than Pipa.
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There are no brothers and it doesn't matter which sister is older. In England, heraldic heiresses inherit equally.
But it doesn't matter anyway, at least in connection with this particular marriage. The Middleton arms will never be quartered by Prince George or any other children, nor will William bear them in pretense because neither of those things is done with the royal arms. The Middleton arms can appropriately be impaled with William's for her use (and will be when the time comes for her to have her own standard/banner), but that would be the case whether she were an heiress or not.
If Philippa marries an armigerous man, then the Middleton arms will pass on to her children to be quartered with her father's.
But it doesn't matter anyway, at least in connection with this particular marriage. The Middleton arms will never be quartered by Prince George or any other children, nor will William bear them in pretense because neither of those things is done with the royal arms. The Middleton arms can appropriately be impaled with William's for her use (and will be when the time comes for her to have her own standard/banner), but that would be the case whether she were an heiress or not.
If Philippa marries an armigerous man, then the Middleton arms will pass on to her children to be quartered with her father's.
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Re: Cambridges get new conjugal coat of arms
JMcMillan wrote:There are no brothers and it doesn't matter which sister is older. In England, heraldic heiresses inherit equally.
Not that this changes your point about the heraldic heir(ess) but there is a brother. Catherine and Philippa have a younger brother, James.
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GSelvester wrote:JMcMillan wrote:There are no brothers and it doesn't matter which sister is older. In England, heraldic heiresses inherit equally.
Not that this changes your point about the heraldic heir(ess) but there is a brother. Catherine and Philippa have a younger brother, James.
Stupid me! Then Philippa's hypothetical future children will not, in the normal course of things, inherit the quartering.
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Re: Cambridges get new conjugal coat of arms
GSelvester wrote:JMcMillan wrote:There are no brothers and it doesn't matter which sister is older. In England, heraldic heiresses inherit equally.
Not that this changes your point about the heraldic heir(ess) but there is a brother. Catherine and Philippa have a younger brother, James.
Yeah, for some reason people forget about him.
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Re: Cambridges get new conjugal coat of arms
What is different from the old ones?
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Re: Cambridges get new conjugal coat of arms
None. It is just a new illustration of the two arms side by side.
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Re: Cambridges get new conjugal coat of arms
Ah, I see, this is the first such illustration published by the College of Arms?
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