One of them is this 2015 grant to the 'Lord of the Dance', Michael Flatley :

Michael F. McCartney wrote:4400 Euros for a personal grant or confirmation :0
:O
JMcMillan wrote:Even at that, it's a bargain compared to what the College of Arms is charging--6,857 euros at today's exchange rate. By comparison, Lord Lyon is dirt cheap at 2,862 euros. I'm surprised the cost differential hasn't led to mass migration across the Tweed. Or arms smuggling in the opposite direction.
Martin Goldstraw wrote:JMcMillan wrote:Even at that, it's a bargain compared to what the College of Arms is charging--6,857 euros at today's exchange rate. By comparison, Lord Lyon is dirt cheap at 2,862 euros. I'm surprised the cost differential hasn't led to mass migration across the Tweed. Or arms smuggling in the opposite direction.
But what are we comparing? What are we actually paying for?
JMcMillan wrote:Martin Goldstraw wrote:JMcMillan wrote:Even at that, it's a bargain compared to what the College of Arms is charging--6,857 euros at today's exchange rate. By comparison, Lord Lyon is dirt cheap at 2,862 euros. I'm surprised the cost differential hasn't led to mass migration across the Tweed. Or arms smuggling in the opposite direction.
But what are we comparing? What are we actually paying for?
In interesting point, but, Martin, you just need to find a more creative heraldic lawyer. Scottish grants are also to the grantee and his descendants according to the law of arms, but the Scottish statute requiring matriculation by cadet lines doesn't apply outside Scotland. You get your (relatively) cheap Scottish grant, then move to England, Nova Scotia, North Carolina, New South Wales, the Northwest Frontier where Scottish law doesn't apply. It's still a substantive coat of arms from one of the Sovereign's heraldic officers, and no one is going to try to keep you from using it as is, or as you choose to difference it with the traditional cadency marks (thus conforming with the letter of the terms of the grant). You may say that the Court of Chivalry will not protect your rights against usurpers, but it won't do that for an English grant, either, not in practical terms.
And with a Scottish grant you can always demand to be received wherever you go as a noble in the noblesse of Scotland. It may not be in the letters patent, but it's still there in Tam Innes's book!
Michael F. McCartney wrote:But like sauce for the goose etc., it cuts both ways...and if the laws or customs of whatever country the Scot or his arms go, differ from the Scottish practice, then the Scottish practice must yield ...
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