New Supporter for Queensland?

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New Supporter for Queensland?

Postby Ryan Shuflin » 10 Jun 2013, 23:42

http://www.qt.com.au/news/choat-backs-koala-crest/1867933/

Apparently, there is a call to change the coat of arms of Queensland. If they do, I hope the koala supporter is drawn is a better attitude.

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Re: New Supporter for Queensland?

Postby Jeremy Kudlick » 11 Jun 2013, 01:17

Looking at the poll they have there, the current red deer isn't even a choice. If they do go with the koala as a supporter, it should at least be supporting the arms.
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Re: New Supporter for Queensland?

Postby Chas Charles-Dunne » 11 Jun 2013, 10:58

Another newspaper not checking its facts - crest when it should be coat of arms.
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Re: New Supporter for Queensland?

Postby Ryan Shuflin » 11 Jun 2013, 17:35

Chas Charles-Dunne wrote:Another newspaper not checking its facts - crest when it should be coat of arms.


Perhaps we should offer free consultation to journalists regarding heraldic matters.

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Re: New Supporter for Queensland?

Postby Chas Charles-Dunne » 11 Jun 2013, 18:19

Ryan Shuflin wrote:
Chas Charles-Dunne wrote:Another newspaper not checking its facts - crest when it should be coat of arms.


Perhaps we should offer free consultation to journalists regarding heraldic matters.


I think it would be a good idea. It certainly would not hurt.

If a newspaper can't check simple and easily verifiable things, how can anyone have any confidence in anything that they report?
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Re: New Supporter for Queensland?

Postby Martin Goldstraw » 11 Jun 2013, 19:11

I seem to recall that many years ago that, until he disappeared, Frederick Hogarth of The Baronage Press offered a journalists and authors guide to heraldry and titles. It never prevented any newspaper from getting it wrong.
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Re: New Supporter for Queensland?

Postby Ryan Shuflin » 11 Jun 2013, 20:07

the koala can actually make a good supporter. Here is a picture of a better emblazonment http://www.flickr.com/photos/wyrmworld/5530725889/sizes/m/in/photostream/

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Re: New Supporter for Queensland?

Postby JMcMillan » 11 Jun 2013, 21:30

Ryan Shuflin wrote:
Chas Charles-Dunne wrote:Another newspaper not checking its facts - crest when it should be coat of arms.


Perhaps we should offer free consultation to journalists regarding heraldic matters.


Or perhaps we should all just collectively get over it. A shield with a design on it is only a "coat" of arms because we associate it by metonymy with the actual surcoat bearing the same design. Why can we not accept that people are going to use the term crest to apply to the shield or even the entire "coat" of arms through much the same process?

(Question: What is a Pavlovian talbot? A breed of dog that salivates when someone calls a coat of arms a crest.)
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