Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
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Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
The bishop of Stockholm's Catholic Diocese, Anders Arborelius, will be appointed Cardinal, reports the Italian television channel Rai.
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Re: Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
If I know anything about Sweden the argument may centre not around a Swedish cardinal, but why the RC church in Sweden has no female priests.
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Re: Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
by the very talented Davor Zovko
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Re: Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
An interesting emblazonment, but the shield is very un-Swedish.
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Re: Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
Chris wrote -
"but the shield is very un-Swedish."
Why is that a problem?
Iain Boyd
"but the shield is very un-Swedish."
Why is that a problem?
Iain Boyd
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Re: Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
Iain Boyd wrote:Chris wrote -
"but the shield is very un-Swedish."
Why is that a problem?
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I didn't say it was a problem, I merely pointed out a fact.
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Re: Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
As a decidedly minority church in Sweden, it might be important to not go out of their way to look more "foreign" than they have to. The galero is already foreign enough! IIRC the usual Swedish way to display personal arms of a bishop with those of the diocese is quarterly, so "when in Stockholm..."
Which is not a criticism of the impaled version, which is quite nice - just less Swedish.
Which is not a criticism of the impaled version, which is quite nice - just less Swedish.
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Re: Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
Bishop Arborelius already impales his arms, rather than quarter, so that is probably why impalement was chosen this time as well. Also, while impalement is not all that used in the Church of Sweden, is is used, i.e. by the former archbishop of Uppsala, Anders Wejryd, both as bishop of Växjö and as archbishop of Uppsala.
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Re: Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
Well in the First Picture shown of Arborelius Arms as Bishop his Arms is Quartered (Torsten Laneryd's Post). This is also by Davor Zovko, so there is examples of both practices. And yes the traidtional pratice in Sweden is Quartering, but as Claus Berntsen points out there are some examples of impalement. And indeed also of other practices in uniting the Arms of the Diocese and the Bishop. Bishop Hans Stiglund of Luleå for instance has a Shield per fess with the diocesean Arms in the upper part and the personal arms in the lower part.
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Re: Sweden's first Cardinal since Reformation.
Nice variety of practices! - given which, any of these approaches should be fine!
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