Latest addition to the Swedish Royal Family
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Re: Latest addition to the Swedish Royal Family
Prince Alexander, Duke of Södermanland, now has a little brother, names and title to be revealed in due course.
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Re: Latest addition to the Swedish Royal Family
Due to be revealed on Monday, I read on the site of the Royal House of Sweden.
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The new-born Prince is to be Gabriel Carl Walther, Hertig (Duke) of Dalarna. His arms will almost certainly be the same as those of the previous Duke:
![Image](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Armoiries_de_Carl_Johan_duc_de_Dal%C3%A9carlie.svg/339px-Armoiries_de_Carl_Johan_duc_de_Dal%C3%A9carlie.svg.png)
Q3 are the arms of Dalarna.
The previous Duke was Prince Carl Johan Arthur (1916-2012), youngest son, of King Gustaf VI Adolf and his first wife Princess Margaret of Connaught. He lost his rights as a prince in 1946 when he married morganatically. (If the same rules applied today, none of the King's children or grandchildren, including the Crown Princess, would be able to succeed to the throne.)
On 2 July 1951, for himself, his wife and his marital descendants, he was made Count of Wisborg in the nobility of Luxembourg by Grand Duchess Charlotte and took the name Carl Johan Arthur Prince Bernadotte. The Counts of Wisborg are considered to be part of the Swedish unintroduced nobility. As Count of Wisborg his arms were different, but still royal - both Vasa and Bernadotte:
![Image](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Armoiries_de_Lennart_Bernadotte_comte_de_Wisborg.svg/318px-Armoiries_de_Lennart_Bernadotte_comte_de_Wisborg.svg.png)
The only previous Duke of Dalarna was Prince Nikolaus August of Sweden and Norway (1831-73), the youngest child of King Oscar I of Sweden and Norway and Josephine of Leuchtenberg. His arms were rather different, firstly because of the Norwegian element, secondly because the Dalarna element was not a quarter. Arms as an adult:
![Image](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Armoiries_du_Prince_Auguste_duc_de_Dal%C3%A9carlie_de_1844_%C3%A0_1873.svg/484px-Armoiries_du_Prince_Auguste_duc_de_Dal%C3%A9carlie_de_1844_%C3%A0_1873.svg.png)
![Image](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Armoiries_de_Carl_Johan_duc_de_Dal%C3%A9carlie.svg/339px-Armoiries_de_Carl_Johan_duc_de_Dal%C3%A9carlie.svg.png)
Q3 are the arms of Dalarna.
The previous Duke was Prince Carl Johan Arthur (1916-2012), youngest son, of King Gustaf VI Adolf and his first wife Princess Margaret of Connaught. He lost his rights as a prince in 1946 when he married morganatically. (If the same rules applied today, none of the King's children or grandchildren, including the Crown Princess, would be able to succeed to the throne.)
On 2 July 1951, for himself, his wife and his marital descendants, he was made Count of Wisborg in the nobility of Luxembourg by Grand Duchess Charlotte and took the name Carl Johan Arthur Prince Bernadotte. The Counts of Wisborg are considered to be part of the Swedish unintroduced nobility. As Count of Wisborg his arms were different, but still royal - both Vasa and Bernadotte:
![Image](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Armoiries_de_Lennart_Bernadotte_comte_de_Wisborg.svg/318px-Armoiries_de_Lennart_Bernadotte_comte_de_Wisborg.svg.png)
The only previous Duke of Dalarna was Prince Nikolaus August of Sweden and Norway (1831-73), the youngest child of King Oscar I of Sweden and Norway and Josephine of Leuchtenberg. His arms were rather different, firstly because of the Norwegian element, secondly because the Dalarna element was not a quarter. Arms as an adult:
![Image](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Armoiries_du_Prince_Auguste_duc_de_Dal%C3%A9carlie_de_1844_%C3%A0_1873.svg/484px-Armoiries_du_Prince_Auguste_duc_de_Dal%C3%A9carlie_de_1844_%C3%A0_1873.svg.png)
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Re: Latest addition to the Swedish Royal Family
The First Count of Wisborg was Prince Oscar, Duke of Gotland son of King Oscar II. When he married morganatically Ebba Muck af Fulkila (of Noble rank neverless) in 1888 the Prince lost his titles. Grand Duke Adolf of Luxemburg did in 1892 bestow the couple the rank of Comte and Comtesse de Wisborg. They where allowed to accept the title by the Swedish government with the Swedish form greve and grevinna af Wisborg. Wisborg beeing a ruined Castle in the Prince's former Dukedom, in reference to this the Ram of the Arms of Gotland was incorporated into the Arms. This was kept by the Following Counts of Wisborg.
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![Image](https://y.cdn-expressen.se/images/dc/02/dc0275176003497aac40b7c166301218/annan/880.jpg)
- Chris Green
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Re: Latest addition to the Swedish Royal Family
Perhaps one of our Swedish members can explain why, although the arms are the same as those of the previous Duke, the coronet has emeralds in the stalks instead of pearls and there are no small crowns on the blue bonnet.
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- Claus K Berntsen
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Re: Latest addition to the Swedish Royal Family
The coronet is the current heraldic version, as used by all the dukes and duchesses. When, and why, this changed I'm unsure of.
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