This is a nicely coloured wappenbuch from 1843:
http://books.google.nl/books?id=WP5BAAAAcAAJ&pg=PT54&dq=wappenbuch
Schlesisches (Silesian) Wappenbuch
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Re: Schlesisches (Silesian) Wappenbuch
Nice, there are some interesting charges in there, that I don't know. I listed the names:
Vincke
Zenge
Buttner
Polombini
Mützshepal
Oheimb
Also, why does it start with the arms of the Duke of Wüttemberg?
Vincke
Zenge
Buttner
Polombini
Mützshepal
Oheimb
Also, why does it start with the arms of the Duke of Wüttemberg?
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Re: Schlesisches (Silesian) Wappenbuch
I can't immediately find any link between the Dukes of Wurttemburg and Silesia, though they may conceivably have held lands there through marriage.
There are several question marks over this wappenbuch. Why, for example do the arms of three important princes, including the Prince-Bishop of Breslau, come after more minor nobles? Why is the cover page the last thing one comes to? I just wonder whether the first entries including Wurttemburg actually relate to Silesia at all. Hopefully someone expert in German heraldry and noble families can enlighten us.
There are several question marks over this wappenbuch. Why, for example do the arms of three important princes, including the Prince-Bishop of Breslau, come after more minor nobles? Why is the cover page the last thing one comes to? I just wonder whether the first entries including Wurttemburg actually relate to Silesia at all. Hopefully someone expert in German heraldry and noble families can enlighten us.
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Re: Schlesisches (Silesian) Wappenbuch
Thanks for posting this, Chris. It's a very handsome book. I was very pleased to find the Von Merckel and Von Kamptz arms. They're both used in SA (though without any obvious right to them), and I'd been looking for source references for them.
* Zenge : a crowned column
* Buttner : a wooden basket
* Polombini : a "casque de dragon"
* Mützshepal : three columns
* Oheimb : a bull's cranium distilling blood.
According to Rietstap's Armorial General, the charges are :Ryan Shuflin wrote:Nice, there are some interesting charges in there, that I don't know. I listed the names:
Vincke
Zenge
Buttner
Polombini
Mützshepal
Oheimb
* Zenge : a crowned column
* Buttner : a wooden basket
* Polombini : a "casque de dragon"
* Mützshepal : three columns
* Oheimb : a bull's cranium distilling blood.
Regards
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Re: Schlesisches (Silesian) Wappenbuch
Arthur Radburn wrote:* Polombini : a "casque de dragon"
Casque de dragon = "dragoon's helmet."
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Re: Schlesisches (Silesian) Wappenbuch
Chris;
Thanks for the link to the Silesian armorial, Volume 3. I will add it to my Heraldry and Genealogy Reference Library website at:
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tqpeiffer/
Fred
Thanks for the link to the Silesian armorial, Volume 3. I will add it to my Heraldry and Genealogy Reference Library website at:
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tqpeiffer/
Fred
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Re: Schlesisches (Silesian) Wappenbuch
Hello all,
For the sake of completeness, here are links to all 3 volumes of Leonhard Dorst's 3-volume Silesian armorial, along with a link to another one of his major works (Württembergisches Wappenbuch/Württemberg Armorial).
J. G. Leonhard Dorst von Schatzberg
Schlesisches Wappenbuch, Bank I (Vol. I)
https://books.google.de/books?id=U_5BAA ... &q&f=false
Schlesisches Wappenbuch, Bank II (Vol. II)
https://books.google.de/books?id=V_5BAA ... &q&f=false
Schlesisches Wappenbuch, Bank II (Vol. III) (link repeated from above)
https://books.google.de/books?id=WP5BAA ... &q&f=false
Württembergisches Wappenbuch
https://books.google.de/books?id=RQQwAA ... &q&f=false
For his contributions to heraldry and geneaology, Leonhard Dorst was ennobled by the Fürst (Prince) of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen as "Dorst von Schatzberg". His arms are shown below on this ex libris. Although married (to a von Prittwitz), he died without issue.
Enjoy.
Regards from South Carolina
Kurt
P.S. Any German readers out there?
For the sake of completeness, here are links to all 3 volumes of Leonhard Dorst's 3-volume Silesian armorial, along with a link to another one of his major works (Württembergisches Wappenbuch/Württemberg Armorial).
J. G. Leonhard Dorst von Schatzberg
Schlesisches Wappenbuch, Bank I (Vol. I)
https://books.google.de/books?id=U_5BAA ... &q&f=false
Schlesisches Wappenbuch, Bank II (Vol. II)
https://books.google.de/books?id=V_5BAA ... &q&f=false
Schlesisches Wappenbuch, Bank II (Vol. III) (link repeated from above)
https://books.google.de/books?id=WP5BAA ... &q&f=false
Württembergisches Wappenbuch
https://books.google.de/books?id=RQQwAA ... &q&f=false
For his contributions to heraldry and geneaology, Leonhard Dorst was ennobled by the Fürst (Prince) of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen as "Dorst von Schatzberg". His arms are shown below on this ex libris. Although married (to a von Prittwitz), he died without issue.
Enjoy.
Regards from South Carolina
Kurt
P.S. Any German readers out there?
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Re: Schlesisches (Silesian) Wappenbuch
Chris Green wrote:I can't immediately find any link between the Dukes of Wurttemburg and Silesia, though they may conceivably have held lands there through marriage.
There are several question marks over this wappenbuch. Why, for example do the arms of three important princes, including the Prince-Bishop of Breslau, come after more minor nobles? Why is the cover page the last thing one comes to? I just wonder whether the first entries including Wurttemburg actually relate to Silesia at all. Hopefully someone expert in German heraldry and noble families can enlighten us.
The book appears to have been scanned from back to front - the plates are numbered at the top right and are displayed in reverse order!
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Re: Schlesisches (Silesian) Wappenbuch
Thanks very much, Kurt. The Württemberg armorial is interesting too.Kurt Alex wrote:Hello all,
For the sake of completeness, here are links to all 3 volumes of Leonhard Dorst's 3-volume Silesian armorial, along with a link to another one of his major works (Württembergisches Wappenbuch/Württemberg Armorial).
Regards
Arthur Radburn
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Re: Schlesisches (Silesian) Wappenbuch
Here's one more link to another Silesian armorial dating from 1938 by Alfred Schellenberg, where as the author states the arms are arranged by (similarities of) image (...Anordnung nach Bildern) for the first time. There is also a black-and-white section with house marks and similar markings that follows the multicolor section with family arms.
https://archive.org/details/Schlesische ... chBd1-1938
Regards from South Carolina
Kurt
https://archive.org/details/Schlesische ... chBd1-1938
Regards from South Carolina
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