The April newsletter is now up on the College website : http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news- ... tter-no-42 .
As usual, some eye candy for us to enjoy.
College of Arms Newsletters 2015
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College of Arms Newsletters 2015
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As usual, some eye candy for us to enjoy.
They could do a whole lot more. It wouldn't take more than an hour to provide images of all the grants.
Chris Green
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Re: College of Arms Newsletters 2015
The July newsletter is now online. Interesting items include a grant of arms to a woman which does not indicate her marital status; caves and Norman arches; and heraldic rugby balls! Also a link to the first documentary ever to be filmed in the College of Arms, back in the 1930s.
http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news- ... tter-no-43
http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news- ... tter-no-43
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Re: College of Arms Newsletters 2015
Re the arms granted to Anthony John STRATTON -
the blazon given breaks my 'keep it simple' rule in that if the rugby balls are counterchanged it is, according to my understanding, unnecesssary to repeat the 'per fesse wavy'.
The College's blazon -
"Per fess wavy Argent and Azure three Rugby Balls palewise per fess wavy counterchanged laced Sable in chief three Pointed Crosses Azure."
compared with my blazon -
"Per fess wavy Argent and Azure three Rugby Balls palewise counterchanged laced Sable in chief three Pointed Crosses Azure.".
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Iain Boyd
the blazon given breaks my 'keep it simple' rule in that if the rugby balls are counterchanged it is, according to my understanding, unnecesssary to repeat the 'per fesse wavy'.
The College's blazon -
"Per fess wavy Argent and Azure three Rugby Balls palewise per fess wavy counterchanged laced Sable in chief three Pointed Crosses Azure."
compared with my blazon -
"Per fess wavy Argent and Azure three Rugby Balls palewise counterchanged laced Sable in chief three Pointed Crosses Azure.".
Regards,
Iain Boyd
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The blazon given breaks my 'keep it simple' rule in that if the rugby balls are counterchanged it is, according to my understanding, unnecessary to repeat the 'per fess wavy'.
I agree. It is surely given that a charge counterchanged follows the line(s) of the underlying field. So if the field is, say, quarterly azure and argent, a cross couped counterchanged would naturally be quarterly argent and azure; no additional information is required. There is no necessity to repeat either the quarterly or the tinctures.
In the College blazon quoted, the herald seems to doubt that people will realise that the per fess wavy line should continue through the rugby balls.
Chris Green
IAAH President
Bertilak de Hautdesert
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The October newsletter is now online : http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news- ... tter-no-44 .
Some points to ponder, and perhaps discuss :
- the Anatomical Society's new arms (click on the link) featuring "a male ecorché" and "a naked Caucasian woman" as supporters
- a slip (shock and horror!) in the emblazonment of the James arms : the two decorations below the shield are the wrong way round (the Order of St John is many levels above the Territorial Decoration in the order of wearing)
- the grant of arms to Antoine Valk CBE : his address is given as the Netherlands, his CBE was honorary (according to the London Gazette), but his arms are not described as such.
Some points to ponder, and perhaps discuss :
- the Anatomical Society's new arms (click on the link) featuring "a male ecorché" and "a naked Caucasian woman" as supporters
- a slip (shock and horror!) in the emblazonment of the James arms : the two decorations below the shield are the wrong way round (the Order of St John is many levels above the Territorial Decoration in the order of wearing)
- the grant of arms to Antoine Valk CBE : his address is given as the Netherlands, his CBE was honorary (according to the London Gazette), but his arms are not described as such.
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Arthur Radburn
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Thanks for pointing these out Arthur. Always good to know the proper precedence for awards and such.
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Mark Anthony Henderson
IAAH Fellow : Former Design Assistance Request Team Artist
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I am surprised to see the Territorial Decoration included. It was a long service medal.
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Evidently because it's styled a "decoration" and entitles the recipient to use post-nominal letters.Chris Green wrote:I am surprised to see the Territorial Decoration included. It was a long service medal.
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These are the Anatomical Society's arms, from the photo of the LPs on their website.
According to their website :
"The design alludes to the professions of members of the Anatomical Society who comprise medical practitioners, dentists, vets, scientists and artists.
"The frets in the Arms represent neural cells and the roundels within them, stem cells (for the scientists).
"A chevron is one of a series of bones on the ventral side of the tail in many reptiles and some mammals.
"The lion, the king of beasts (for the vets), in the Crest and in the Badge supports a Rod of Aesculapius (for the medical practitioners) and rests its paw on a skull (with teeth for the dentists).
"The Supporters are a male écorché and a female nude (for the artists). The motto ‘ex conformatione usus’ means ‘from structure comes function’."
The use of the fretty pattern to represent neural cells contrasts somewhat with Lord Lyon's use of "a human neuron Or" in the Rhetorical Company's arms ( viewtopic.php?f=7&t=955 ).
According to their website :
"The design alludes to the professions of members of the Anatomical Society who comprise medical practitioners, dentists, vets, scientists and artists.
"The frets in the Arms represent neural cells and the roundels within them, stem cells (for the scientists).
"A chevron is one of a series of bones on the ventral side of the tail in many reptiles and some mammals.
"The lion, the king of beasts (for the vets), in the Crest and in the Badge supports a Rod of Aesculapius (for the medical practitioners) and rests its paw on a skull (with teeth for the dentists).
"The Supporters are a male écorché and a female nude (for the artists). The motto ‘ex conformatione usus’ means ‘from structure comes function’."
The use of the fretty pattern to represent neural cells contrasts somewhat with Lord Lyon's use of "a human neuron Or" in the Rhetorical Company's arms ( viewtopic.php?f=7&t=955 ).
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Arthur Radburn
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