Postby Michael F. McCartney » 27 Jun 2017, 16:45
Very nice display!
I personally prefer your standard "as is" - badge #2 is by far the stronger of the two -- simpler; clearer visual contrast; and reflects the core theme of your crest.
Both badges are nicely unique with the thorny border. #1 is a nice concept, reflecting the three elements of the shield design; but in small scale or at any great distance, the stacked bee & rose aren't as visually distinct as the squared knot design (which I'm sure has a proper name that I'm forgetting) from the crest.
If you do decide to include both badges on your standard as Chris suggests, IMO 2-1-2 would work best; but as with all of this post, that's just my opinion.
Michael F. McCartney
Fremont, California